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To reiterate the subject of this posting ; It is IMPOSSIBLE to NOT vote in the United States of America !!!

In the U. S. A. , at the end of each election, there WILL be someone elected to each post . You either voted for a person that has an actual chance of winning , or you voted for the winner . By NOT voting , OR , by voting for anyone who has no chance of winning , you have voted for whoever won . A case in point , to vote for Mr . Ralph Nader , ( who is otherwise a great man ) , is a vote for whoever wins , and I can say without a doubt , that WON'T be Mr . Nader .

I worked in a public occupation , and would often hear someone complain about politician A . I would say , " Oh , so you voted for candidate B then ? " . If they would say , " No , I didn't vote for either one " , I would then TRY to get them to understand that they had indeed voted for the candidate that won , by not voting against them . Usually , if they were of limited enough intelligence that they didn't bother to get their rusty dusty down to the ballot box , the lesson was wasted on them .

Are you registered ? ( If not , you have very little time left to GET registered . )

Will you get to the poling place and vote ?

Have you already voted absentee ballot , or are you going that route ?

Or are you one of those people that this lesson is wasted on ?

If you don't vote for someone that has a chance to win , YOU VOTED FOR WHOEVER WINS , and you have NO right to complain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whist I am quite literally a card carrying member of a certain party , (in fact , I held the highly esteemed office of precinct delegate ( ! ) , ( LOL ) ) , you will notice I have not indicated what that party is . Nor have I suggested you vote the way I want the election to go . Get out and vote WHATEVER your leanings .

Alec ,

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All in all I would rather be camping !!!

- September 30, 2008 05:10 AM

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In a democracy this is very important. You are right, even if you did not vote, you have no right to complain. Make sure you are registered to vote also and you know where to vote for your district since a lot of people got turned away last election due to this.

- September 30, 2008 07:28 AM

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Yes, and no ... If one votes they are agreeing with the terms and conditions ... One is agreeing that the vote of the many will be carried out and that such a decision, either way, is acceptable.

If one doesn't vote ... Then there are people with various reasons, those that are informed and disagree with the process itself and the other larger portion, of whom there may be a myriad of reasons, some good, some poor.

If I vote for xxx, then I am supporting the mob decision even though they vote for yyy, becuase I am supporting the process.

I consider myself an informed individual, but I do not recognize the right of the mob to rule my life.

As John Galt says "To those of you who retain some remnant of dignity and the will to live your lives for yourselves, you have the chance to make the same choice. Examine your values and understand that you must choose one side or the other. Any compromise between good and evil only hurts the good and helps the evil."

That being but a very short snippet from his rather lengthy speech in Atlas Shrugged.

- September 30, 2008 10:48 AM

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Whoah, camper! I agree that we should exercise our right to vote. That we should each do our little part to help elect a candidate... even if it means voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

However - Some people, even after much close study & examination, have no confidence in either candidate. None whatsoever! Even after weighing the pros & cons of each... and trying to balance out the differences in policies and ideologies, in order of importance (to the individual) some people still cannot decide which is the lesser of the 2 evils.

For those who can decide (or have been able to form an opinion on) which is the lessor evil, then it should be easy to vote. And even easier for those who really admire, respect and trust one of the candidates.

But for those who absolutely, after much studying, truly believe that neither candidate is qualified... well... isn't that their right? Perhaps they just can't, in good conscience, pull the lever for either guy.

I think people who don't bother to do their homework... and vote based on hearsay and gossip... and slanted little news blurbs (in either direction) are just as damaging as those who chose not to vote.

- Edited on September 30, 2008 06:39 PM

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I disagree that voting for a third party is a vote for the non-third-party winner. Your vote is for that third party, regardless of his chances of winning.

- October 02, 2008 12:57 PM

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camper33 wrote:

If you don't vote for someone that has a chance to win , YOU VOTED FOR WHOEVER WINS , and you have NO right to complain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dude that's hilarious.

I agree with the implication that if you don't vote you are in effect supporting the winner by de facto.

However I disagree with "If you don't vote for someone that has a chance to win , YOU VOTED FOR WHOEVER WINS , and you have NO right to complain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!." which to me defies logic.

Of course you can complain, by casting your vote for a 3rd party candidate you are casting a vote against the policies of the winner.

Surely you're not saying that regardless of who aspires to be president of USA the electorate should be so blinked as to immediately narrow their views to the 2 most popular and media savvy candidates for consideration, that's of course only if both candidates have a chance of winning.

- October 06, 2008 11:03 PM

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camper33 wrote:

(a) To reiterate the subject of this posting ; It is IMPOSSIBLE to NOT vote in the United States of America !!!

(b) By NOT voting , OR , by voting for anyone who has no chance of winning , you have voted for whoever won . A case in point , to vote for Mr . Ralph Nader , ( who is otherwise a great man ) , is a vote for whoever wins , and I can say without a doubt , that WON'T be Mr . Nader.

(a) Tell that to General Odierno. He has not voted since attaining the rank of Colonel.

(b) Voting for 3rd parties is not "throwing your vote away" or "voting for whomever wins" ... support towards 3rd party candidates sends a message to the major parties and forces them to alter their platforms in the future to garner support ... and perhaps one day allows us to move beyond our restrictive two-party system.

Voting for a candidate from the two main parties simply because you don't want to "throw your vote away" is the true way to squelch your voice.

- October 08, 2008 06:46 AM

BuzWeaver Researching the cure for liberalism

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Lets ask ACORN.

- October 09, 2008 05:58 PM

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BuzWeaver wrote:

Lets ask ACORN.

Can we ask Akon instead?

- October 09, 2008 06:14 PM

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One shouldn't discuss politics ...Tongue out

I am fed up with my affiliated party!!! I am voting for a 3rd party candidate this year.

- October 11, 2008 07:47 AM

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Top 10 reasons not to vote for Obama

1)Obama's economy is acually "more of the same"
2)Obama saying not ready to run for pres. in 2004.
3)Biden "feeling he will we tested in the first 6 months as pres."
4)Weather Underground & William Ayers
5)Spread the wealth
6)Plans on abortion
7)Rev. Wright's words
8) Acorn
9)Misleading "I'm a Catholic" states Obama. (Except the morals..)LOL
10) Larry Sinclair Statement

And a bonus... Hasn't Produced a valid Birth Certificate.

- October 27, 2008 11:42 AM

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Mccain / Palin!!

Obama attended a farewell to Rashid khalidi who was a known scholar, critic of Israel and advocate for palestinian rights. Also Ayers, the person Obama claimed not to have contact with, attended as well. He was also a activist tied to the Plo. Obama gave him a warm embrace and left some Palestinian Americans leaders beleiving he is more receptive to their veiw point than he is willing to say. Eventhough Obama expresses firmly pro-Israel veiw on middle east ploitics. Witch was pleaseing to many Jewish leaders and advocates for Israel.
Ali Abunimah, a palestinian rights activist in chicago, said he met with Obama many times at Palestininan & Arab American Community events. In the year 2000 Khalidis held a fundraiser for Obama's unsucessful congressional bid. Nest year, Social service group headed by Mona Khalidi receied a grant of 40,000 for a local charity,the woods fund of chicago,when Obama served on the funds board of directors. (This was Published in LA Times)

- October 30, 2008 08:31 AM

North of MoTown ( Detroit, Michigan, The United States of America.)

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In a democracy this is very important. You are right, even if you did not vote, you have no right to complain. Make sure you are registered to vote also and you know where to vote for your district since a lot of people got turned away last election due to this.

Dear " japaneseblueeyes " ,

Thank you so much for your posting . I think it is sadly facinating that someone who doesn't live in the U . S . A . , ( and apparantly never did ) , has such a good grasp of what is truth here !!! Better even , than many who DO live here , ( and always have ) . Thank you for adding the thoughts of registering , and knowing WHERE to vote . Again , thank you so much for taking the time to leave us your posting .

Your friend ,

Alec ,

( camper33 ) .

- October 30, 2008 10:14 AM

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Rand_011 wrote:

Yes, and no ... If one votes they are agreeing with the terms and conditions ... One is agreeing that the vote of the many will be carried out and that such a decision, either way, is acceptable.

If one doesn't vote ... Then there are people with various reasons, those that are informed and disagree with the process itself and the other larger portion, of whom there may be a myriad of reasons, some good, some poor.

If I vote for xxx, then I am supporting the mob decision even though they vote for yyy, becuase I am supporting the process.

I consider myself an informed individual, but I do not recognize the right of the mob to rule my life.

As John Galt says "To those of you who retain some remnant of dignity and the will to live your lives for yourselves, you have the chance to make the same choice. Examine your values and understand that you must choose one side or the other. Any compromise between good and evil only hurts the good and helps the evil."

That being but a very short snippet from his rather lengthy speech in Atlas Shrugged.

Dear " Rand-011 " ,

Thank you for taking the time to craft your post ! I may not agree with you , but thank you anyway !!!

Your quote from John Galt can be used to supportmy argument. "Examine your values and understand that you must choose one side or the other ." Then get out and VOTE !!!!!!!!! ( I. E., "choose one side or the other" ! )

Sincerely ,

Alec ,

( camper33 ) .


All in all I would rather be camping !!!

- Edited on October 30, 2008 10:29 AM

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sheera007 wrote:

Whoah, camper! I agree that we should exercise our right to vote. That we should each do our little part to help elect a candidate... even if it means voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

However - Some people, even after much close study & examination, have no confidence in either candidate. None whatsoever! Even after weighing the pros & cons of each... and trying to balance out the differences in policies and ideologies, in order of importance (to the individual) some people still cannot decide which is the lesser of the 2 evils.

For those who can decide (or have been able to form an opinion on) which is the lessor evil, then it should be easy to vote. And even easier for those who really admire, respect and trust one of the candidates.

But for those who absolutely, after much studying, truly believe that neither candidate is qualified... well... isn't that their right? Perhaps they just can't, in good conscience, pull the lever for either guy.

I think people who don't bother to do their homework... and vote based on hearsay and gossip... and slanted little news blurbs (in either direction) are just as damaging as those who chose not to vote.

Dear " sheera007 " ,

Thank you for taking the time to respond with your post ! I think we agree on MUCH more than we disagree on , but thank you anyway !!!

I LOVED your statement " I think people who don't bother to do their homework... and vote based on hearsay and gossip... and slanted little news blurbs (in either direction) are just as damaging as those who chose not to vote. "

Sincerely ,

Alec ,

( camper33 ) .


All in all I would rather be camping !!!

- October 30, 2008 10:35 AM

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dreamergal wrote:

I disagree that voting for a third party is a vote for the non-third-party winner. Your vote is for that third party, regardless of his chances of winning.

Dear " dreamergal " ,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post ! We may not agree on this one issue , but thank you anyway !!!

Sincerely ,

Alec ,

( camper33 ) .


All in all I would rather be camping !!!

- October 30, 2008 10:52 AM




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