King of First Date

Q. I go on lots of first dates and the women seem to be having fun, but when I call for a second date, they disappear...


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Dear Dr. Warren, I go on lots of first dates and I usually have a good time. Sometimes there’s a kiss at the end. Sometimes there isn’t. But the women almost always tell me they had a great time. They seem to be having fun, but when I call for a second date . . . they seem to disappear. What is going on?

Sincerely,

Mike in Long Island

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Dear Mike,

Thank you for your very good question. I know that you are not alone in this experience and I do have some thoughts on the matter. There are two axioms that come to mind. One is, "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again." Another is, "Don’t try the exact same thing over and over again, hoping for a new result." I would advise you to keep in mind a combination of the two: "If at first you don't succeed, try something new again and again."

The Three "A’s"—Appearance, Attitude and Aptitude If you find that women do seem to have a good time with you on a first date but decline to take it any further, begin to think about how you present yourself to another person sitting across from you. Try to step outside of yourself for a moment, and look at the basics about yourself: your appearance, your attitude and your communication style.

  1. Appearance is a touchy subject, but it’s important to remember that everyone has their best features as well as some other features that could be improved upon. First and foremost, focus on your best features. If you’ve been told you’ve got great blue eyes, wear a shirt or sweater that complements them. Update your style a bit—try something new with your hair or buy a few new items of clothing that you look and feel great wearing. Next, check your hygiene. Do the breath test and check your nails. Do you wear too much aftershave?
  2. How about your attitude—do you come across as overconfident or not confident enough? Do you come across as disinterested or overeager? Do you seem aloof or personable? Are you overly nervous to a fault? These are some of the important questions that you want to ask yourself to get a better sense of seeing how you might best come across. Making improvements to your appearance and behavior is not about being someone else; it’s about putting the very best version of you out there. And while there is no one-size-fits-all combination for everybody, a little practice and a whole lot of observation will help you shape your first dates into the second and third dates that you’re seeking.
  3. Next, take a look at your communication skills. Are you an effective communicator? Communication aptitude is a 2-way street: you have to be a good listener and a good speaker. A great communicator knows the right time to listen and the right time to speak, and also knows the difference between speaking about oneself too much and expressing genuine interest by asking questions and really listening to what the other person is saying. There’s nothing worse than being on a date with someone who talks about themselves incessantly—it comes across more like a monologue than a dialogue. Above all, the best conversations between two people happen when both people are interested in getting to know more about the other. So the next time you’re on a date, watch your conversation style. Are you an effective communicator?
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To Mike in Long Island, It seems to me that you are frustrated that women are playing games with you and giving you mixed messages -- saying they had a good time with you and talking about wanting to do see you again, then disappearing or saying that the chemistry isn't there. I can relate to you because I suffer from Asperger Syndrome, a disorder on the autistic spectrum that impairs social skills and makes relationships challenging, and I have been through this BS many times with guys from different souces -- the Personals, church groups, other sites, and even acquaintances of friends. You can't take it personally; a lot of people say they want to find a committed relationship but are immature, superficial, or scared of commitment. My advice to you is to be persistent in your search and keep a positive attitude. I have been on eHarmony for almost seven months, and am currently seeing a very nice, sweet, honest Korean guy from this site who enjoys my company as immensely as I enjoy his. He really likes and appreciates me for who I am and does not seem bothered at all that I have a learning disability. We have only been together for four months, so we have not talked about seeing each other exclusively, but we have good chemistry and seem compatible. Mike, sometimes you really have to go through dozens of wrong matches before you find the right one. Think of it this way: every woman who closes communication with you or disappears because she thinks there is no chemistry is doing you a big favor. Each rejection you get will close the door to an unsuccessful match and bring you closer to the special woman out there who will really love and care about you as a whole person. There is someone out there for everyone, regardless of age, sex, appearance, communication skills, race, religion, economic or educational background, etc. If I found a nice guy on eHarmony, you will find a nice woman. Good luck in your search, and don't give up. God bless you.
- September 03, 2007 06:17 PM

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The fact of the matter is, unless I am having a miserable or utterly uncomfortable time, I will say that I am having fun. For me it's a little white lie like "Sure, I like your new haircut", or "No honey, those pants don't make you look fat.". I think it's safe to say that's not just women, it's what people do. It's an effort to set you at ease and be polite. Also, there's a huge possiblity that yes, it is fun! But maybe fun in a friendly way. As to coffee and paying. I expect a man to pay at least for the first couple dates. It's chivalrous and traditional and I like it. At the same time I don't expect a man to make a huge investment on someone he has never met before. I think coffee, or a walk in the park, etc. is nice, because I don't feel guilty or obligated, and also because it is a low pressure activity that lets you get a feel for the other person. I personally, if not completely turned off and enjoy the conversation, will give a second date if asked. I know that on my first dates I am a little nervous, and not always myself just from the jitters. It gives both of us a chance to enjoy each other's company with a little more knowledge and a lot less nerves. I know a lot of women who don't do that though. My last comment: Maybe if a woman insists on doing something that is not in your interest or budget that is your first hint, she's just not for you. I think it is nice to make a few suggestions within a price range you are comfortable with, but if she won't agree to anything I wouldn't waste too much time.
- August 13, 2007 11:45 PM

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Sometimes its just not worth being honest, I went on a date last week with this guy who seemed nice/interesting in our open communication & phone calls but I didn't feel the chemistry was there & closed the match with that comment. He proceed to send me a text with "could have fooled me"....I don't think there was a need for him to do that. I also agree with the comments by K, the guy should at least offer to pay....he didn't loose anything since we split everything down the middle.
- August 12, 2007 03:35 PM

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